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		<title>By: poodle problems</title>
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		<dc:creator>poodle problems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take my gsd to obedience training, and it costs $85. for ten classes. There are usually eight to a class and they have been great. We have learned a lot, and you need to be trained with the dog. It also helps with a group situation for your dog to socialize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take my gsd to obedience training, and it costs $85. for ten classes. There are usually eight to a class and they have been great. We have learned a lot, and you need to be trained with the dog. It also helps with a group situation for your dog to socialize.</p>
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		<title>By: ziki.com.au</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziki.com.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the &quot;Numbers Game&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#039;s a reminder to not be that guy......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the &#8220;Numbers Game&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#8217;s a reminder to not be that guy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: goboom.search4i.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the &quot;Numbers Game&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#039;s a reminder to not be that guy......</description>
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<p>Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#8217;s a reminder to not be that guy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: wagg.it</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-3525</link>
		<dc:creator>wagg.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the...&lt;/strong&gt;

Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#039;s a reminder to not be that guy......</description>
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<p>Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#8217;s a reminder to not be that guy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: designfloat.com</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-3524</link>
		<dc:creator>designfloat.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the &quot;Numbers Game&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#039;s a reminder to not be that guy......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Edgy Conversations: Josh, Land Rovers, and the &#8220;Numbers Game&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Every walked away from an experience just demoralized at the state of the sales person on the other end of the deal. It&#8217;s a reminder to not be that guy&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldschmidt</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-3523</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waldschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with you, Glenn.  I also push back that regardless of the sales manager in place, individual team members have a choice to treat &quot;leads&quot; with respect.  That&#039;s what our mother&#039;s taught us.You are right that car sales reps need to be much better trained and much better incentivised.  We reward for the close rather than the experience.  That creates a culture of crazy sport coats and cheesy 1-liners instead of empathy, honesty, and intelligent debate.Danp.s. I will be talking about this Saturday morning at 9AM on 94.5 FM.  Join in the discussion.  Let&#039;s talk about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with you, Glenn.  I also push back that regardless of the sales manager in place, individual team members have a choice to treat &quot;leads&quot; with respect.  That&#039;s what our mother&#039;s taught us.You are right that car sales reps need to be much better trained and much better incentivised.  We reward for the close rather than the experience.  That creates a culture of crazy sport coats and cheesy 1-liners instead of empathy, honesty, and intelligent debate.Danp.s. I will be talking about this Saturday morning at 9AM on 94.5 FM.  Join in the discussion.  Let&#039;s talk about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldschmidt</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-7993</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waldschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with you, Glenn.  I also push back that regardless of the sales manager in place, individual team members have a choice to treat &quot;leads&quot; with respect.  That&#039;s what our mother&#039;s taught us.

You are right that car sales reps need to be much better trained and much better incentivised.  We reward for the close rather than the experience.  That creates a culture of crazy sport coats and cheesy 1-liners instead of empathy, honesty, and intelligent debate.

Dan

p.s. I will be talking about this Saturday morning at 9AM on 94.5 FM.  Join in the discussion.  Let&#039;s talk about it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with you, Glenn.  I also push back that regardless of the sales manager in place, individual team members have a choice to treat &#8220;leads&#8221; with respect.  That&#8217;s what our mother&#8217;s taught us.</p>
<p>You are right that car sales reps need to be much better trained and much better incentivised.  We reward for the close rather than the experience.  That creates a culture of crazy sport coats and cheesy 1-liners instead of empathy, honesty, and intelligent debate.</p>
<p>Dan</p>
<p>p.s. I will be talking about this Saturday morning at 9AM on 94.5 FM.  Join in the discussion.  Let&#8217;s talk about it.  </p>
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		<title>By: GlennBourquin</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-3522</link>
		<dc:creator>GlennBourquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,I don&#039;t think Josh&#039;s attitude is the issue here.  Josh is just following a broken process put in place.  Management is accountable (Rusty) for this process.  It&#039;s a time of drastic change in the automotive sales process and the way people shop for vehicles.  Change = opportunity or threat.  Many managers see mostly threat from the internet.  Can you believe that some managers don&#039;t want to quote ANY prices over the net?  Meanwhile, they&#039;ll stare out at the lot and wonder where all the customers went.Big O has seen it&#039;s fair share of tragedy in recent years and I hope that somebody over there can figure things out soon.  There is great opportunity right now for dealerships who are willing to make bold changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,I don&#039;t think Josh&#039;s attitude is the issue here.  Josh is just following a broken process put in place.  Management is accountable (Rusty) for this process.  It&#039;s a time of drastic change in the automotive sales process and the way people shop for vehicles.  Change = opportunity or threat.  Many managers see mostly threat from the internet.  Can you believe that some managers don&#039;t want to quote ANY prices over the net?  Meanwhile, they&#039;ll stare out at the lot and wonder where all the customers went.Big O has seen it&#039;s fair share of tragedy in recent years and I hope that somebody over there can figure things out soon.  There is great opportunity right now for dealerships who are willing to make bold changes.</p>
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		<title>By: GlennBourquin</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-7992</link>
		<dc:creator>GlennBourquin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

I don&#039;t think Josh&#039;s attitude is the issue here.  Josh is just following a broken process put in place.  Management is accountable (Rusty) for this process.  It&#039;s a time of drastic change in the automotive sales process and the way people shop for vehicles.  Change = opportunity or threat.  Many managers see mostly threat from the internet.  Can you believe that some managers don&#039;t want to quote ANY prices over the net?  Meanwhile, they&#039;ll stare out at the lot and wonder where all the customers went.
Big O has seen it&#039;s fair share of tragedy in recent years and I hope that somebody over there can figure things out soon.  There is great opportunity right now for dealerships who are willing to make bold changes.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Josh&#8217;s attitude is the issue here.  Josh is just following a broken process put in place.  Management is accountable (Rusty) for this process.  It&#8217;s a time of drastic change in the automotive sales process and the way people shop for vehicles.  Change = opportunity or threat.  Many managers see mostly threat from the internet.  Can you believe that some managers don&#8217;t want to quote ANY prices over the net?  Meanwhile, they&#8217;ll stare out at the lot and wonder where all the customers went.<br />
Big O has seen it&#8217;s fair share of tragedy in recent years and I hope that somebody over there can figure things out soon.  There is great opportunity right now for dealerships who are willing to make bold changes.  </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldschmidt</title>
		<link>http://danwaldschmidt.com/2010/07/business/edgy-conversations-josh-land-rovers-and-the-numbers-game#comment-3519</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Waldschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Customers talk. Amazing how we imagine that we can talk down to our customers and they &quot;have&quot; to come back and buy from us.I am baffled (somewhat confused) by this own predicament.  It&#039;s like beating a dog and then wondering why it runs away when you whistle... Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Customers talk. Amazing how we imagine that we can talk down to our customers and they &quot;have&quot; to come back and buy from us.I am baffled (somewhat confused) by this own predicament.  It&#039;s like beating a dog and then wondering why it runs away when you whistle&#8230; Dan</p>
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