Today Dan and Broc interview Bryan Vashus in a powerful discussion about goals, leadership, long-term success, and doing the hard things that get you closer to where you want to be.
They talk about fixed mindset versus growth mindset and how being exposed to new ideas is such an important factor of that.
Bryan also talks bankruptcy and the importance of having your personal finances under control.
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Dan: [00:00:02] Hey guys, welcome back to Bring Your Own Awesome podcast, I’m Dan Waldschmidt. I’m joined by Broc Edwards. How are you Broc?
Broc: [00:00:07] Good Morning, good afternoon, whatever time it is wherever you are.
Dan: [00:00:11] This is tape number two because I committed the cardinal role of do not do this on podcast which is leave your phone so that your wife and call you. That will not happen again this time. I’m excited by today’s interview Broc because I’ve known Bryan for a long time, Bryan Vashus for a long time. He’s joining us today and talk to him about his brand of awesomeness without any further delay. Hey, Bryan, welcome!
Bryan: [00:00:43] How is it going? Good morning.
Broc: [00:00:44] Good morning.
Dan: [00:00:45] Good morning to you. I know a little bit about you which is great for me but I think it would be great for the rest of the community to get to know them about you. Tell us who you are and what you do.
Bryan: [00:00:58] That is so loaded of a question we could go on and on but I really guess the simplest answer would be, I feel like I’m a someone who just was raised in a fairly, normal home and was in sports and different things but didn’t really, I was never really given much of a vision for my life and just kind of through the process of going to college and just experiencing different things in life and so you get married having a job doing, all that stuff. I always felt like there was something bigger and better for me out there but I never really knew how to process that and got introduced to some different people and some different things. I’m kind of the guy that’s been a process of time that has kind of led me to where I’m at today.
Broc: [00:01:45] So that sounds like your support.
Bryan: [00:01:48] Well, I wouldn’t say I’m searching as much now as maybe I used to be. It’s really been more of a – yes, it’s just a discovery but much of my life was as if I was wandering around in a jungle looking and experiencing stuff we didn’t really know where I was going or say.
Broc: [00:02:07] Bryan, it brought you to where you’re at today. So, where are you at today?
Bryan: [00:02:10] Well, today I am at a point of — my passion now is people, helping people, really kind of discover their purpose and in discovering their purpose it reveals to them how much potential they have. I don’t think you can know your potential until you know your purpose and that is a very generic base because there’s a lot of specifics to that but that is definitely my passion.
Broc: [00:02:37] Say a little more to that, Bryan. So you can’t know you’re, I’m going to mess it up, you can’t know your potential until you know your purpose, you can’t know your purpose until know your potential, say that again.
Bryan: [00:02:47] Well, I Was literally thinking about this just this morning. I’ve got this crazy smart phone and until I understand what its purpose is, which is just maybe help me have some tools and different things at my fingertips and I start to access it, then in accessing it and taking it out and diving into it I find out it does a whole heck of a lot more than just make a phone call, take photos and surf the net. There’s a ton of more tools in there but you can never know the full potential of a vehicle until I get in it and start using it, its purpose is transportation but there’s a whole lot more support with it.
Broc: [00:03:30] Bryan, can you connect that to to a person? Say, I don’t know — I’m a middle aged guy, so say, I approach and go, “You look like you have your life together, Bryan. You’ve got this passion, you’ve got this purpose. I’m feeling lost. How do you help me out, Bryan?”.
Bryan: [00:03:46] Well, again, I don’t know what people’s beliefs are out there and I’m not trying to be preachy or anything but I definitely believe in God and I believe in it and to understand purpose. The whole idea of purpose, you can’t know the purpose of a thing unless you know what the intent of the creator of the thing was. So how can I know the purpose of something if I don’t know what was in the mind of the creator of the thing. So once I kind of figure out, “Okay, I was, I’m a I created being, what the heck was that created for?”, but I don’t ask myself that because I don’t know, I didn’t create myself. I got to asked the one that did. Once I understand that, now for me, again this is just me personally.
Broc: [00:04:33] Yes.
Bryan: [00:04:33] I know that really the biggest thing and the coolest thing is just didn’t know that a creator know them and in knowing him and knowing how he created me and what He created me to do. That’s where I discover what my potential is. I mean and I’m realizing human beings have, I think unlimited potential. I don’t think there’s really, the only limits we put on ourselves as well, I mean the only limits we have is what we put on ourselves mentally, in our own minds, our own thoughts.
Dan: [00:05:03] Yes, I love what you just said and I think this is something that, 39, I’ve started thinking about this a lot more. I get asked about, “What’s your purpose? What’s your purpose?”, and like, “Oh, man, I got so many purpose, as a dad, as a husband, as a runner, as a worker bee, all these things. I love the fact that you drop that quote, “You don’t know your potential to no purpose”, and then, “How do you know your purpose? Well, you get asked the guy who created you. What’s your purpose, what your destiny for this world.” How Does that empower you on a daily basis, that knowledge, that awareness?
Bryan: [00:05:42] Well, I think the biggest thing is, this is kind of funny. I was never very entrepreneurial minded and I think the more I discover this kind of unlimited potential. All of a sudden, my eyes and my kind of expectors are up everywhere I go. You see a building, empty building somewhere in it and immediately you’re thinking, “Man, what kind of business could go in there and how could that serve the community?” I’m on the board of directors for a soccer club, “How can we make that more awesome, bigger? How can we reach more and and help more kids?” You start to think it’s possibilities thinking instead of, I heard an audio once about the difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset. A fix mindset, “It’s just the way I am. This is how it is.” and you just stock but when you start to understand that, “Man, I have unlimited excuses, I make any excuses, I have a limit.”.
Dan: [00:06:48] Yes.
Broc: [00:06:48] And so I’m open to ideas, people have an idea for me, I’ll listen to anything and I’m not afraid. Now, because I know what purpose, someone might present an idea to me that it might be an awesome idea, “But you know what, that doesn’t quite align with where I’m headed with my purpose. Great idea man. I encourage you. I hope you — “, just like you guys do but maybe I can help with some ideas or different things, kick some remedy but that may not be where I’m at today.
Dan: [00:07:19] This is interesting. This is really interesting because your backstory is, it’s like your raised pretty comfortably, you weren’t raised in a family where you struggling to make ends or at least you don’t remember it that way. You kind of have things okay. The like was okay growing up. I mean, I’ve done some interviews where people are like, “Dude, I was homeless, I was broke. I knew I needed to make radical change.” It sounds like things are okay and then also you realize, “Hmm, I’m not happy with everything just being okay. I want”, all these were awesome because that’s the name of this podcast but maybe it’s, “I want more”, or I want to figure things out.” Where did that — when did that start kicking in, was that a year ago, months ago, decades ago? When did that thought process for you start?
Bryan: [00:08:06] Again, there’s a couple key points. Believe it or not, I actually start going to church that top totally differently than I ever heard. That’s what kind of led me on this whole thing of unlimited potential because a lot of the growing, I guess, I don’t know if it was specific we top a lot of these, I don’t say churches but there’s teaching out there that God just bit you over with and control your life and it’s almost like a slave taskmaster kind of mindset and that isn’t it all. It’s like, man wants to unleash us on the earth man to do some awesome things. That was a one process but then he actually went through, now we did go through some struggle and that was 2008 happened, my wife was in real estate, I joked that she was my sugar mama. I was a recreation director for a small city down here in Colorado and then 2008 came way. I have furlough days, real estate market tanked and we were terrible with our money where everything was financed and when you lose 60 percent of your income, the banks don’t let you pay 60 percent less of your bills. So we did go bankrupt. That was definitely a key point but really what it did, it introduced me to, “I had to figure out finances”, nd that’s just a harsh reality that I don’t care what a person has if they can’t get the money thing right. They will never fulfill their potential. What is on the side of the street begging for, money.
Dan: [00:09:47] Wow.[00:09:48] We got to have money, everybody does. It just supposed to be a tool to maximize our potential. I believe you know it’s just a tool. That’s what triggered this whole other side of things. It made me realize, “Man, I didn’t get so focused in on one little area of my life. I’ve got to be good in there. There’s the areas in our lives to fulfill what we have to do here.” I dont know if I have answered your question. I have to remember your question now.
Broc: [00:10:23] Question for you based on that, Bryan. Where do you see people getting in their own way, whether it’s with finances or limiting their potential? Where do we tend to trip ourselves up from what using — ?
Bryan: [00:10:33] I personally, I think it starts in our own main society. It can start from our own families. I mean, look at my family, a good family, my dad loves me and my parents love me. I know that, I have no doubt about that but there was not a thing about financial literacy. I wasn’t thought a thing about, my parents just kind of said, “Hey, whatever you do, do it.” So I’m an 18 year old kid decided I want to go to, I wrestle, that was my thing, that’s what I did. I was a wrestler. I won the national championship back in 1989 and my whole life revolved around that and I didn’t really aside went to college to wrestle and then I had to kind of figure out, “What am I going to do with my degree?”, and so my life was very much left to my own thinking but as Einstein says, “The same thinking that creates problems in our lives can not be used to fix the problem”, and it’s just been this process that I find. — Now I understand, that’s what’s so awesome what you guys are doing. We have to get exposed to new ideas and new thinking and new stuff. We’re a product of our environment, we’re a product of the information we receive. So when we get in the way is, if we’re not controlling the information that we take in, we are the product of what we think and where our thoughts are generated by information we take in and it can be anything we experiences, it can be our schooling, it can be stuff we learn on a job, it could be relationships and then how we process that information. They were shattering to it.
Dan: [00:12:19] Yes, I love that. I love the idea of product, of the relation of your environment. People don’t realize that. I am a political junkie. One of the decisions I had to make this year was to literally cut a lot of that out of my life because I’d wake up in an angry mood because I was tracking news.
Bryan: [00:12:36] Right.
Dan: [00:12:37] That was it meant to be like encouraging. It was meant to be helping somebody. It was negative. That was not one positive thing I could say, honestly, from the bottom of my soul that was happening. I was just like taking a deep dive off the pool or off the diving board into this pool of negativity and then going, “Why am I so angry? Why am I so wound up? What’s going on?”, and tt was because of this.
Bryan: [00:13:03] Right.
Dan: [00:13:04] I had a similar experience growing up as well, where my parents, you’ve heard my stories many times, very religious. No TV in the home, had to read a book a day and, “This is what you’re going to do”, and there are a lot of things that was taught and of course I say, I wasn’t taught necessarily how to be a good husband. When I realized how unprepared I was to be a husband, I wrote a whole book about this or part of a book, it was crushing.
Bryan: [00:13:34] Right.[00:13:35] When I say crushing, it was crushing. Not only do I realize that I’m a screw up in this moment but I also realize that I have no wherewithal, knowledge or experience to fix this problem. That’s probably the wrong thinking but that’s the realization I had. It was like, “Oh, shit times 50 moment”, like, “Oh, oh, this is bad.” So, where did you go to start figuring this out? I’m guessing you talk about change your environment, change how you think. How did you, what did you do to change your environment?
Bryan: [00:14:06] I got introduced to the company I work with now. It is a network marketing company and that itself was a tough one because I had a little bit of a perception of what those things were. But this one was different, it was just about really educating our lives. Their whole concept is relisten associate, dive into good books, listen a great podcast, audio, different things and make sure you’re associating with people that are better on a path, at least on the path to a dream. You don’t necessarily have to go associate with multimillionaires and upper echelon people, although, that’s cool when you can do that too. But at least get on the path with other dreamers and other people were willing to grow and learn and change and chase something. It was really this information that opened my whole, let me say everything, changed everything for my life. I’m now had a little bit of that, through the church I started going to lay they were big on, just learning and growing and reading there is just a different environment and leadership but it wasn’t systematic. I get involved with a company, what we do is educate people and while first being educated ourselves and that was it. So now, I mean, I just love it. I just love reading and learning and new concepts and just, kind of like that the whole potential thing you go back that. We didn’t have a clue of our potential as a father until we became a father. We don’t even realize what it even means to be a father or maybe being becoming a dad. That’s when we realize I say, “Holy cow! I don’t have any idea”, and I didn’t have any ideas, what did I do, I picked up some books and start reading and start learning from people who do better job with their kids and they always have a phrase in our company called, Dream Struggle Victory.
Dan: [00:16:10] Yes.
Bryan: [00:16:10] You have a dream, then you got to go through the struggle of learning and achieving and changing and becoming and then you get to victory and all that education is part of that.
Dan: [00:16:24] One thing I love of what you did mention was this and I love that analogy because I’m in the, like yourself, once I realized the answers were out there and I think this is great for anyone listening right now. I had this epiphany, someone solve this problem. It’s like you said with your financial question, you are not a manager checkbook but you were aware like, “Somebody has figured this out.”.
Bryan: [00:16:45] Right.
Dan: [00:16:46] The answers are out there. When you have people who’ve taken 5, 6, 4. 3 years to write a book and it’s 200 pages and if you could read that in a day, a week, a month you have, hopefully, great information. Most of the time, right? Great information and that’s what’s empowering, that I think is the kernel of Awesomeness. We talked a lot about Awesomenesss, if it’s like, “Oh, I’ve got a hit 700 home runs in a lifetime,” no, it’s just this ability to say, “The answers are out there and the only thing that holds me back is my unwillingness to go get the answers. I’m going to go do it”, and that, that right there is the kernel, we talk about Bring Your Own Awesome. That’s what I think the awesome is, that awareness that there is, “The only potential I limit myself by is my inability to learn” What was the second one, struggle?
Bryan: [00:17:39] Dreams, struggle, victory.
Dan: [00:17:42] Dream, struggle, victory. Broc, I got to throw this to you, brother.
Broc: [00:17:45] All right. Well, now Bryan you mentioned something that really resonates because you were talking I mean and I’m backing up a little bit in our conversation here just about what we’re putting into our minds, about the environment that we put ourselves in. Jim Rome, famously years ago said that we are the average of the five people we associate with. Dan, our friend, James Mullack has talked about that quite a bit and I heard someone else put it differently the other day they said basically, “Show me your friends and I’ll show you your future.”.
Bryan: [00:18:14] Right.
Broc: [00:18:16] That just hit me in the head. I mean, I’ve heard it said other ways but the idea of, somehow that moves it from kind of the abstract of, “Yes, your an average of something to know”, that’s your future you’re looking at around you. Just take a look around you. That’s where you’re going. Is that where you want to be and I guess I’m just kind of processing what you said outloud here, Bryan, because it did resonate. This is something that’s been going through my head recently. So you have this great community around you here in the Edgy Empire and we’ve got like over a thousand people right now, really super sharp awesome people all up to really cool things. So if you could ask them anything. Like, where are you stuck at? Where is that thing where you’re just going, “Man, I just need that one bit of information, I just need to have that one conversation with someone”? How can we help you move forward here? What’s your ask of the Empire?
Bryan: [00:19:11] I know that was part of the initial questions that I had to fill out. I thought about that for a while. I mean, one of the things I had put on there was, I want to know what those — back with Dan said, Waldschmidt, Waldschmidt, is the one — if given thechance study that guy. He talks about how every problem we face has been solved somewhere and it’s probably written in a book somewhere. He’s huge on reading, has his kids read and stuff. There’s probably books out there. I would like to know — I don’t actually have a specific thing because I have such a good support system but I want to know different books. I guess that’s the big, one of the top five books that people have really gleaned some insights from. I guess another thing can be just the management of a very attitude. What are some strategies for maintaining a solid rock, solid positive attitude in the face of struggle, in the face of disappointment. That’s always, those are always important. It’s always important to manage or a mindset or attitude in response to struggle.
Dan: [00:20:39] Boy, isn’t that the truth? Unbelievable. Yes, that’s something I’ll continue looking for. Well, look, the empire you have been challenged. You’ve been asked, right, these questions. Broc, I think we found another bit of awesomeness here.
Broc: [00:20:54] Definitely, definitely it’s been a great conversation, Bryan. You and I have spoken a little bit in the past and I always take something away from it and really love just this idea of you don’t know your full potential until you know your purpose. I’ve got to think about that a bit more.
Dan: [00:21:09] Yes.
Bryan: [00:21:10] One quick little thing that I thought about, if some cargo trailer ended up in the middle of Africa or Brazil or something where people look at it, they see wheels on it, they’re kind of, “Well, this could be helpful and they load stuff up on it but then they pull it, they just pull around, manually themselves, while they’re getting a level of that potential but if they don’t understand its full purpose is to be hoped to an actual vehicle, they’re not maximizing its potential, the probable longer distances and differnet things. Well, definitely figure out, how were you created, what’s in you, what are your gifts, your talents, your strengths, your abilities and then as you tap into those and hold them, I think we start to open the doors inward.
Dan: [00:22:01] I think that’s incredibly, that’s spot on. So thank you Bryan for spending some time with us. We have to do this again and we’ll definitely share what books were reading, mindsets were sharing and I love that phrase, you don’t know your potential until you know your purpose. Thanks for joining us today.
Bryan: [00:22:19] Thanks guys.
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