An amazing interview with an amazing overcomer. Today Dan and Broc talk with Channéll Holmgram of Inspired by Purpose.
Listen how trusting the process and taking that first big step has made a massive difference in Channéll’s life. Raw and real dialogue about not drowning out the encouraging voices with drugs and alcohol. Exhausting every resource. Being willing to be wrong more often than being right.
Looking to connect with Channéll and be inspired by purpose? You can find out more here: http://beinspiredbypurpose.com/
Dan: [00:00:01] Hey guys, it’s Dan Waldschmidt here. Welcome back to the Bring Your Own Awesome podcast. As you know, I’m joined by my fearless partner, Broc Edwards. Hey, Broc.
Broc: [00:00:13] Yes, I’m glad you remembered my name though. I was worried for a second now.
Dan: [00:00:18] I thought all the way of this podcast on your shoulders by saying,”Brilliant, Broc Edwards” From the great country of Texas who joins us as well, we’ve got a mate just an amazing person joining us right now. As you know, we’ve brought people onto this podcast to have their own brand of awesome and that’s what this podcast is all about. Small things that make a massive difference that someone else is doing. We can learn from, apply to our lives and then why don’t make our own awesomeness. Even more awesomer. So this morning, this afternoon, this evening whatever you’re listening to this. I’m excited to introduce you to Channell Holmgren. Is that the right last name, Holmgren?
Channell: [00:01:01] That’s right.
Dan: [00:01:01] I guess I’ve always called you Channell. I’ve never even noticed what your last name is.
Channell: [00:01:07] Yes, all my social media profiles are under Channell Nicole. So that’s my middle name that I go by online.
Dan: [00:01:14] I feel like you’re like Beyonce you’re just, Channell.
Broc: [00:01:16] Just one name, that’s all.
Channell: [00:01:19] Exactly.
Dan: [00:01:19] Not the Channell that cost like 70 dollars for a quarter of an ounce. It’s two Ns, two Ls and a little squiggly line or something and they’re towards the end.
Channell: [00:01:29] Yes, alittle accent over the E.
Dan: [00:01:34] I love it. It was such a pleasure for me to grab coffee with you. Not too long and just catch up as I get to do from time to time with different people in the Empire. The audience listening hasn’t had that cup of Starbucks with you. So just tell us a little bit about, who you are and what you do. Yes.
Channell: [00:01:55] I’ve got my Starbucks handy here, per usual. I’m Channell and I am the owner of Inspired by Purpose and Inspire Me Mommy and we are lifestyle companies and so we embody everything from mental, physical and spiritual health. We really educate and inspire people to get healthier through educating them on principles, from athletic training, nutrition. What you put in your body matters and then really helping people set goals and not just in their fitness realm but also in kind of their mental health journey. We advocate for NAMI – National Alliance Mental Illness. We’re very involved in that and our vision is really to help people understand that how you do anything is how you do everything. Health is true wealth and the truth of success. With that, part of being successful as being healthy and part of being able to perform well is being healthy. In a nutshell it’s about living a healthy lifestyle and our team is educated in many different facets from yoga to nutrition, athletic training, powerlifting and we really try to use those principles to show people how they can integrate that into their everyday life in a manageable long term way.
Broc: [00:03:23] All right, so normally I would ask you a question to zoom in and dig down a little bit but it sounds like you’re covering such a wide range. I’m not even sure where to start there. So I’m going to go with a different question for I’m going to ask. How did you get to today on this journey? Did you wake up and say hey, “I want a whole lifestyle, physical, mental, spiritual help the Empire”, or what was the transition?
Channell: [00:03:46] Wow. Well, that’s a great question. So I started my journey really from coming from the background that I came from and that was I grew up in a homeless, I ended up being homeless. I grew up in an abusive environment. I ran away at 12 years old. I was living in motels at 16 and I come from a background where most people in my immediate family were convicted felons and drug addicts and I knew nothing about how to be healthy or live a happy life. So I kind of went on this journey to determine how can I basically be the opposite of that. It’s in my DNA what do I do to be healthy and feel good and live a productive life. And so I went –.
Broc: [00:04:34] I think you really lead right into it. Where do you even start? I mean, if it’s not what you’ve experienced, you don’t know where to look for, you just know you want something different. Where do you begin at such a young age?
Channell: [00:04:48] Yes, so for me, it was, I decided to look into what I can study in college. I found dietetics which is nutrition. I decided, “I’m going to study that and I’m going to learn”, because the one thing that I didn’t know is how I was eating was affecting my body. If I would eat sugary foods or carry a little bit too much weight. I knew that I didn’t feel good mentally and physically. So I decided to learn what is this all about and how that tied into psychology. Fast forward from there, I started studying Kinesiology just from being in the gym every day and someone said, “Hey, you should really look into being a personal trainer as a career choice”, and I had no idea that even existed. So that’s really where it started, I just started immersing myself kind of in the athletic fitness and nutrition world and over the last 13 years it’s just kind of evolved into what we’re doing now.
Dan: [00:05:53] I got a job in. You packed your life, “So I grew up homeless never was convicted felons. Now I’m doing lots of stuff” So with your permission, I just loved to ask you a couple of questions because people in the Empire and just people in general when I’m on stages or talking, there like, “Well, Dan I would be successful but you don’t know where I came from”, and they kind of give them silts permission to fail or underperform because of what went on in their childhood and you clearly are not doing that at all. So walk us, take a tiny step back and just walk us through. You said you were homeless as a child.
Channell: [00:06:37] Yes, so about the age of 12 I ran away from home. Just could not take the physical abuse, the drugs, the mental illness everything that existed in that realm. From about 12 to 14 I actually stayed with some friends and some friends parents who kind of took me in. Then from about age 14 to 16 I lived with my grandparents and then at 16 which is the legal age of emancipation. I got emancipated and decided to completely remove myself from the environment. When I was legally able to do so and emancipation itself is a huge kind of process. The judge isn’t just going to say, “Okay, you’re a teenager and here you go. Go be on your own” So there was a legal process that I had to go through at that young age but the one thing that I knew was that I didn’t want to be in that environment. I didn’t know why. I just knew that I didn’t want that in my life.
Dan: [00:07:41] Did that, without getting not asking with tenderness. How did that impact you? I mean, we all think of our parents as kind of the foundation of, “Okay, if everything goes wrong at least I can kind of move back home or I could”, you know what I mean? I could call mom and say I need 50 bucks cause I’m super, super broke and you have none of that. So what sort of lessons did you already play were learning or what was your mindset as this child saying, “I’m just going to move out and do my own thing?”.
Channell: [00:08:17] Yes, I was living with my grandparents and they were supportive when I was there. But there’s a whole dynamic that existed there as well that was like, “If you get emancipated you can’t live here”, and so I knew that I needed to get emancipated. My mental space was really, I was in a place where I was destroyed from the years of abuse. I later on, the age of 23 I found out that I had PTSD. I was pretty traumatized. I think I was really in that state of fight or flight. Now looking back on it, I didn’t think so then but it was fight or flight either I was going to have to stay and fight and really overcome everything set up against me or in my mind at that time if I was to take flight and go start somewhere fresh where nobody knew me. Maybe then, maybe then I can have a fighting chance.
Broc: [00:09:20] Even in there, so many people can get caught up. I can totally imagine someone just being able to go, “Okay, I’m not just going to hunker down and get through life and do the best I can do and it will be fine” That doesn’t seem to have been your approach because I mean it sounds like you’re building speed as we go. What’s the transition that that just makes you? I guess, I’m asking a lot of question. I’m not even sure what question to ask you Channell so let me jump ahead too. If you had to describe your superpower, what is it?
Channell: [00:09:57] Yes, I think just knowing what you want and going for it even if you don’t know how it looks. Just having tenacity and having the willingness for me I think has always been, if you want to call it a superpower, just be willing to trust the process that, “Hey, I don’t know how this is going to pan out but I believe that something’s going to happen if I take one step, one more step toward a healthier lifestyle for myself”, which is really kind of what we embody and where my mentality was at the time it was, “Hey, I don’t know really what it is that I want to do with this thing but I know that I’m being polled you know in this direction to kind of go for what I believe is one step closer to my destiny and I’ll just figure it out as I go because that’s what I’ve always done.”.
Broc: [00:10:54] That’s really interesting there because I think so often we get caught up and thinking we’ve got to know what our business empire looks like today. We’ve got nothing we haven’t started and have to have this planned out to being a fortune 100 company. It sounds like what you’re saying is that no it was just really kind of a step at a time I knew I wanted to go this direction and we’ll see what happens.
Channell: [00:11:20] Exactly and I think that that’s a one benefit of really where my background to your point earlier you said a lot of people use it as a crutch. You can use it as a crutch and you can play the blame game and you can blame other people but our life is really our responsibility. I wanted to see how far I can go. I knew I was on my own. How far can I take this thing even though I don’t know what it looks like.
Dan: [00:11:46] That’s incredible. How do you realize that potential? Maybe you didn’t see the potential in your family or your upbringing and you certainly had grandparents who encouraged you. But when did you begin to realize, “I don’t have to do the ending. I Just have to do that beginning with just taking that first step”?
Channell: [00:12:07] Wow, that’s a really good question, Dan. I think that, for me it was always this little voice that just resided within and me. Those voices, I don’t know how many voices we all have in your head but I tend to have. So you go this direction or this direction. There was this little voice that just kept popping up for me or even just feeling that said, “This isn’t for you. You need to go find out what is”, and I think that it would have been really easy for me to probably just drown that voice out with Dü or drugs or alcohol or whatever my environment was. But for some reason I just listen to that voice, chose to listen to it and go for it.
Dan: [00:13:01] Sorry, Broc, I know we are both eager because there was so much meat here on the crab. I guess my question is like, we just go for it seems so simple but yet it’s something we all struggle with it. How do you just go for it? What’s the first thing you do? If I’m looking to go for it, right now, I’d go, “Man, I’ve always wanted to do”, fill in the blank. What do I do? What does go for it mean?
Channell: [00:13:27] To me, go for it means make a decision. For me, once your mind is made up, once you have your decision made that I’m going to try this thing and I’m going to give it my all no matter what obstacles come. No matter what I encounter, no matter if I don’t have the resources or the relationships that I need at this time I’m making the decision that I’m going to pursue it and exhaust every resource I can. Build the relationships that I can and tell, “I know that maybe I need to take a different direction” So I think, I would just make a decision, what do you want.
Broc: [00:14:07] So building on Dan’s question and maybe approaching it from a slightly different angle so but people know what they want or at least what they think they want. You mentioned you work with people with mental physical, spiritual, health. Where do you see people, where do they tend to get their own way? How can they get out of their own way?
Channell: [00:14:27] I think a lot of it comes down to belief systems. I think that’s another piece that when I came out of my environment that I was in as a child and going into where I am now, I really had to adjust that belief system but a lot of people have been conditioned to believe that they can’t have long term success or there’s an element of self sabotage that stems from fear and doubt. One thing that we really work into our programming is addressing those things. For example, if we’re setting a goal with somebody, if someone comes to us and says, “Hey, I want to lose 50 pounds”, “Okay, let’s set the goal to lose 50 pounds. What’s the measure. How can we measure this?”, but more importantly I asked that question, what are your biggest struggles and what obstacles do you know you face. Many people say things like, “I just don’t have enough time in the day. I know I don’t drink enough water”, or, “I’m on call. And so my schedule is unpredictable.” So we actually plan for the obstacles and I think it’s important to understand that there will be obstacles. But if you are committed to your decision you’re going to find a way to be agile.
Broc: [00:15:47] Nice, so I’ve got to ask you a question. I like to ask a lot of people, being an entrepreneur these days is very much glamorized. Being in the fitness industry is like doubly glamorous. Like, you go on Instagram and you spend three seconds there and you know where it goes. So what is the reality? Kind of when you’re living that dream. I know it’s not shiny. I know there’s some real grit to it I know not everyday do you want to get out of bed. What is that side that people don’t see that you wish they knew about? You hit on two different things there. First, let me just comment on the Instagram culture around the fitness world. That’s a whole other topic, a whole other show that could probably be done on that. But as it relates to entrepreneurship, I think you said it. Somedays, you don’t want to get out of bed. But if you’re committed to doing it no matter how you feel, you’re going to do it. But the truth is that it’s really, really, really hard. It’s not glamorous. There’s a lot of long days. There is a lot of figuring it out as you go. There are a lot of blood, sweat, and tears that go into it. Just like I tell people, just like him and jam if you want a result you after work for it consistently over time and the more, just like in the gym, the more fit that you get the harder you have to work, the more you have to do in order to be able to perform at a higher level. I really believe that it’s the same in business and being an entrepreneur is the more opportunities that you get, the more success that you get, the more you really have to work at being a more healthy balanced person to be able to kind and not lose your mind somedays.
Broc: [00:17:44] All right, what advice would you have for someone wanting to start off. They say, “Hey, what was Channells up to is what I want to be doing. How can I get going?”, or I’ll put that another way. What advice do you wish you had when you were starting off?
Channell: [00:18:01] I wish that I would have been told that I can’t do it alone, that I need people, I need a team and I need to learn. When I first started, I was kind of in that survivor mode where it was like, “Okay, it’s me against the world”, and I really had to change that. I really, really had to change that mindset. I had a heal on a personal level to really be able to accept constructive criticism, to be able to have mentors and relationships with other people in business to help me approach things from a different way than my own point of view. I think everybody really needs to be open to having a team and be open to being wrong more often than they’re right.
Dan: [00:18:55] It sounds like you’ve learned a lot and you’ve kind of internalized everything has happened as a child and you’ve not certainly gotten that perfect, with every move up to this point but none of us have. You’re learning and growing and you kind of said, “Look, take that next step” You’ve got to decide something. I think it was interesting at Awesomeplaooza, Broc was it Michael, I forget who is the speaker who said, the word to decide is the Latin word means to cut off. Was that him or somebody else?
Broc: [00:19:38] It was either him or Jason.
Dan: [00:19:39] It is a powerful thought because what he was saying is like, if you have decide to get married then you can’t keep your tender account going right. You’ve got to kind of do some cutting off you know that and you know that just or you’re in a committed relationship. You have to cut it off with you. You decided to go down this new path. You know I guess you increased clarity by just cutting off any other option but being successful and then learning and growing and taking it from there. You seem in talking to both in person and on his podcast very calm, passionate, quiet powerful within you. Is that something you always had or is that part of this decision making process? I mean, how do I get that?
Channell: [00:20:29] Wow, well, thank you for that comment, comment’s good thing. I tend to be a very passionate person but I don’t think I have always had that. I think that I was much more chaotic when I kind of began my entrepreneurial journey and I learned over time that I really had to take a step back and part of that I learned and making decisions was, it’s really important to pause, it’s reallyimportant to listen and to gain clarity especially in business. You can’t be impulsive with things, right. You have to be able to listen and to understand or seek to understand. I’ve been on a journey over the last, for sure at least the last three to five years were my primary goal has been seek to understand, seek to listen and if it’s given me a lot of insight into, not just human psychology but what people really want, what they really need. I think that it can be a very powerful thing not just in your personal life but in your business and as well.
Broc: [00:21:44] Can you say to that because in so many businesses, particularly, I would think a business like yours where people are looking for you to be the expert, for you to come in and make the changes and what you’re saying there is, I maybe over interpreting. One of the most powerful things you can do is not talk but to listen. Can you say more to that? Am I getting that right?
Channell: [00:22:10] Yes, I mean, first of all, definitely, when you go to anybody for a service or a product you expect them to be their expert and be competent and calm and collected and in what they’re providing. But I do think it’s important to listen. I do think that sometimes, we miss the opportunity to learn from other people and this is what I really picked up on when I said, “You know what, I can’t do this all myself. I need insight. I need direction I need structure. I need to learn from other people”, and I realize I can’t do that when I’m talking all the time. So I do think it’s important to listen more than you speak, at least in certain instances.
Dan: [00:23:00] What’s interesting for me is, I feel the same way. I might have mentioned you in some of my podcast and Broc and I have talked about it is, some of that listening for me is just literally listening to an audiobook. Kind of filling back up from something that someone else has taken months or year to write and hone. I now have the privilege of just putting earbuds and trotting down the road at a leisurely pace and listening to and that sort of that obsession with learning. Why is it that we struggle with this idea of learning? Here’s the context,I talk to you all the time who will say to me, it’s a different circle than my immediate circle, they’ll say something like this, “Oh, I’m too busy to read. I don’t have time for that”, and they’re out there quote unquote hustling quote unquote grinding right using all the insta words or Facebook words but they’re too busy to learn.
Channell: [00:24:01] I think there’s a lot of parts to that. Like you said, sometimes listening can just be to an audiobook and if I can add onto that for a second, sometimes listening is just listening to your own mind and your own thoughts. I did a video a couple weeks ago that I talked about three transformative power in my life. Silence, stillness and space. Giving myself silence in stillness and just kind of being uncomfortable in that space. Like whatever is coming up or whatever I’m hearing. Which kind of ties them to the meditation side that we do. But I think to people not having time. It’s just an excuse. It really is just an excuse that people have time for TV, if they have time to be on social media all day then they have time to learn. And so I think it really is making that decision to say, “I want to better myself and I’m going to do anything that I can to make that happen”, and for me the awareness of making that decision, I started asking myself, is this circumstance, is me watching a TV show battering me right now. Having that awareness of this isn’t battering me. What would better of me and then making a decision to listen to the audiobook instead of watching the real housewives or something.
Broc: [00:25:26] So Channell, you’re obviously up to big things, you’ve got a lot going on. Sounds like you’re growing, you’re expanding both personally and in your business as well. One of the things you mentioned is that your early on being open to help, seeking more help. And so there you have a chance now within the Edgy Empire of Awesomeness. Basically, if you had any ask of them, if anything they could do to help you out. What would it be? What would you ask?
Channell: [00:25:57] Well, I think, first of all, a lot of people in the edgy edge are already doing this and it’s beautiful to see and why I love being part of the online community but just being intentional about connections. Being intentional about helping and sharing with each other and I see a lot of people already doing this and I’ve connected with several amazing people in the group already. But just being, I think intentional about the connections but also being willing to share. I think we all go through those days and as a motivator myself there are days I still don’t want to get out of bed. It might not be showcased online or in business life because my job is to be energetic and positive and motivate people but I think it’s very helpful to see other people being real and raw and transparent about their struggles not to complain about it. That’s willingness that’s incredibly well. There are a lot of how they grow.
Dan: [00:27:05] She used to get on me, she’s like, “How come all those everyone else’s boyfriend or husband is saying these glowing things”, and I was like “Listen, all my friends who say amazing things about their wives are douchebags”, and I don’t, if you’re one of my friends I’m sorry, I love you but you know who you are in real life. They’re may not be the nicest, most genuinely cool people and maybe I need a different circle, maybe I split this whole point of this discussion is like, where are the raw, real sort of. Everything is not perfect but we’re fighting for each other. It’s not wonderful all the time, every second but it’s real and we’re here and we’re going to make it happen. I think Yes, I second that a lot. People share like, “Look, I’m struggling”, how can we jump in and help you. We often don’t know someone’s in trouble until they call out for help.
Channell: [00:28:00] Right, if they do and I think go back to the point earlier that I made. I wish somebody would have told me to not try to do it all alone. It’s great to read motivational quotes and it’s great to learn information. But I think as humans we still want this connectivity and we want to know the other people can understand us with the intention of helping us elevate to that next level.
Dan: [00:28:25] Yes, quotes are great, quotes are great. Those one liners are great. I think people, what I’m learning are people want to say, “How? How do I do this you? Okay, so you told me to stay motivated. How do I do that? Like what would be the thing I’d do to actually do that to make that happen?” I think it’s amazing. I love that discussion. I think you’re something we need to circle back to again and have another discussion about more. I think I’m fascinated by people who come from hardship because I find that they have the greatest chances of success. It’s the in betweens that I find where most of us fail. So you have enough money to go on a vacation to a year. You’ve got enough, enough friends. Okay, enough job that if you close your eyes tightly and tell yourself that a good enough story, life seems okay and it’s the people who start off broke and busted and have nothing to lose who just go out and crush it at life. I’m so fascinated.
Channell: [00:29:29] Right, and I think going back to Broc’s question the beginning is some people use that as a crutch. You can really go either way with that because when you come from, a lot of people don’t realize that comes from a background of traumatic experiences or hardship what they don’t realize is the foundation and the tenacity and the survival skills that they’ve learned can be applied to business and they can dominate.
Dan: [00:29:57] That seems like episode number two. Right there is you’re right on the same skill they got to skill that said, “I’m going to step out. I’m going to live with Grandma and Grandpa. I’ve got to move on. I’ve got to move out of this environment”, and to do that in an age where you havesomebody still cutting, cutting your steak for you or that may be a little exaggeration. That is just, you’re right that same hard work ethic is amazing. Thank You for joining us today. Thanks for sharing your superpower with this. You are awesome as are our friend Marianne and the empire sent me a note yesterday that said Flotsam, flawed but awesome. I thought that’s such a great way to wrap all this up, so thank you for spending a few minutes with us. Share with us this focus, this drive and the ways that you bring your awesome.
Channell: [00:30:50] Thank you so much guys. I appreciate that.
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